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#1 LZ-ACHO

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 06:25 AM

What are the requirements for an aircraft to be considered as a "heavy"?

#2 Salem

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 06:47 AM

Aircrafts capable of takeoff weights of more than 255,000 pounds whether or not they are operating at this weight during a particular phase of flight.
[FAA website]

Edited by Salem, 11 November 2008 - 06:47 AM.


#3 LZ-ACHO

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:28 AM

So that means an aircraft which can takeoff with weight more than 115700 kgs?

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:32 AM

Yes.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:37 AM

Thanks  :hrmm:

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 11:40 AM

Except for the B757, which is classified as 'heavy' for separation purposes regardless of TOW

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 12:21 PM

View PostDuke, on Nov 11 2008, 10:40 AM, said:

Except for the B757, which is classified as 'heavy' for separation purposes regardless of TOW

For the 757-200, I think it was because of it's wake turbulence.

757-300 exceeds the 255,000 rule so it's always a heavy.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 05:08 PM

I swear you barely hear heavy on ATC these days....!

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 05:27 PM

aw isn't that a shame :hrmm: jk

Edited by FlightSimmer0724, 11 November 2008 - 05:28 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2008 - 08:14 PM

All A330's and A340's are heavy :hrmm:

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 08:40 PM

View PostNWilkinson, on Nov 11 2008, 09:21 AM, said:

View PostDuke, on Nov 11 2008, 10:40 AM, said:

Except for the B757, which is classified as 'heavy' for separation purposes regardless of TOW

For the 757-200, I think it was because of it's wake turbulence.

757-300 exceeds the 255,000 rule so it's always a heavy.

I'd also like to add that although the 757-200 is a "heavy" for separation purposes, the word "heavy" is not added to the end of the callsign.  Only the 757-300 flights have "heavy" added to the end, because they are the ones that have a MTOW over 255,000 pounds.

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All A330's and A340's are heavy :hrmm:

Well that's WONDERFUL!  Thanks for sharing :hrmm:...  Were you aware that some 757s, all 747s, 767s, 777s are heavy?

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 08:49 PM

Yes some boeings are heavy to.

Edited by Toshiba Airbus, 11 November 2008 - 08:50 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2008 - 10:47 PM

View PostToshiba Airbus, on Nov 11 2008, 07:14 PM, said:

All A330's and A340's are heavy :hrmm:

What an insightful, well thought out, and obviously unbiased post! :hrmm:

Edited by Evan., 11 November 2008 - 10:47 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2008 - 01:30 AM

View PostToshiba Airbus, on Nov 11 2008, 07:14 PM, said:

All A330's and A340's are heavy :hrmm:
*gasp!* So is the A380!!  :hrmm:

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 05:26 PM

View PostToshiba Airbus, on Nov 11 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

All A330's and A340's are heavy :hrmm:
no they're not.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 05:38 PM

View PostFlying_Pie, on Nov 12 2008, 05:26 PM, said:

View PostToshiba Airbus, on Nov 11 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

All A330's and A340's are heavy :hrmm:
no they're not.

I can't lift them :hrmm:

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 05:38 PM

View Posttropicalfish, on Nov 12 2008, 01:30 AM, said:

View PostToshiba Airbus, on Nov 11 2008, 07:14 PM, said:

All A330's and A340's are heavy :hrmm:
*gasp!* So is the A380!!  :hrmm:
No it's not.

It's a "Super."

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 07:10 PM

Yes they are. The A330 and A340's can do 300 People :hrmm: the A346 can do up to 400 People and the A332 can do up to 306 people :hrmm: Remember Air Transat ?

275,000 kg
606,300 lb

276,500 kg
609,600 lb

372,000/380,000 kg
820,100 /837,800 lb

368,000/380,000 kg
811,300/837,800 lb


Those are all the A340's MTOW. All are heavy. I told you! :lol:

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 09:10 PM

lies, all lies. they're not heavy, they're ultralights

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 10:05 PM

View PostFlying_Pie, on Nov 12 2008, 09:10 PM, said:

lies, all lies. they're not heavy, they're ultralights
Seriously. I don't know where he got the idea that the A330 family is a heavy.